Underground Attitude Stinks
Written by HMR on 13/09/2017
There is often chat online regarding the attitude of promoters within our scene, people shouting out to highlight the priorities and attitudes some promoters boast but from time to time “artists” drop a clanger too, or in this case – an artist and his wannabe cannibalistic PR Agency.
a small promotion company out of Edinburgh. UK, have publicly slammed Jeremy Underground and his reps for their more than difficult behaviour in regards to his 5* hotel booking and not so “underground” DJ rider, ahead of an event this month. A situation which could have been settled, if it was not for the agency representing this underground plonk and his ever changing needs. Instead, Jeremy Underground has been removed from Abstrakt‘s launch party and replaced with a human.
RT-Agency, The agency that likes to threaten you with physical violence, if things do not go according to plan. These are messages sent from the Agency to the promoter!!??
A spokesperson from Abstrakt posted “I find this so disappointing. It’s against everything the underground scene / house music is meant to stand for and is exactly the type of behaviour that is making so many promoters stop promoting parties – especially in small cities like Edinburgh where we do it because of our passion for the music and not to make money. Agents / artists acting like this will eventually be the downfall of the scene”.
We have to say, after reading this we questioned how much involvement Mr Underground had in the above attitude but these questions were answered following Mr Undergrounds statement released on his Facebook page earlier today. Update – This apology and his fan page has been removed it seems….
It seems, having read through the thousands of comments on his page, he has a bad case of the “couldn’t give a shits”. There is very little in the way of an apology and more of a, “I didn’t know what was going on” attitude towards his agencies behaviour, digging his hole a tad deeper. Maybe he hasn’t had the time for an apology but Mr Underground has had the time to furiously delete any and all negative comments left on his fan page, a shame, as many were very funny indeed!
Similarly the “agency” itself has given off a big whiff of “fuck its” when it came to airing their side of the story, offering the tiniest of apologies in an even tinier paragraph at the end of a long winded blab about how wrong the promoter was. They have done nothing wrong and because they have done nothing wrong, they have closed their website and social pages, as you do?
It is always said here, that unless you are DJ Craze, all you do as a DJ, is play music. You push start, have a fiddle and then push stop. When you forget this, your career is over, if it has started at all.
On the bright side, it’s the internet and when someone wants to make an arse of themselves, there is always millions who will assist in making them feel right at home. Social media has been having a bit of a giggle.
DON’T FORGET, NICE GETS YOU THERE, ARSE DOES NOT”
“It is with regret that we have decided to cancel the performance of Jeremy Underground at this Friday’s Abstrakt launch party.
We have done so as a point of principle, against certain DJs/artists bullying small promoters and holding them to ransom over ridiculous demands.
After booking the artist a night in an expensive 4 star hotel, we were told that he did not approve and (despite the contract simply asking for 1 room in a ‘4 star or 5 star standard hotel’) that the artist required a “5 star hotel with a sauna and gym”.
Reluctantly, we agreed to swallow the money already lost on booking the first hotel and found a room at the Apex Grassmarket (with a sauna and gym in order to appease the agent/artist). At the agent/artist’s further request, we agreed to book this hotel for 3 nights rather than 1 – at a total cost of £788.
Tonight, we received an email stating that the artist did not approve of this hotel and would ONLY stay in the Sheraton Grand. The agent did say that the artist would reimburse us for 2 of the 3 nights at this hotel, but given that the Sheraton Grand’s cheapest room was £614 per night, we stood to lose £614 + £788 + £149 = £1,551 on the artist’s hotel room alone.
After pleading with the agent that we already stood to lose thousands of pounds on this event (aside from the £1,551 on wasted hotel rooms) and were promoting it for a love of music, the scene and admiration for the artist, we were again told that the artist really needed to stay in the Sheraton Grand as “this will in turn provide the best possible performance”.
At this point, we sent the following e-mail to the agent;
“We’ve agreed that this is simply not worthwhile and that it’s best we just cut our losses.
I find this so disappointing. It’s against everything the underground scene / house music is meant to stand for and is exactly the type of behaviour that is making so many promoters stop promoting parties – especially in small cities like Edinburgh where we do it because of our passion for the music and not to make money. Agents / artists acting like this will eventually be the downfall of the scene.
We simply don’t want to work with someone like this.
For these reasons, we’re going to cancel the booking.”
3 hours later, the agent responded by saying that Jeremy was now ready to “pay for the (new) hotel out of his own pocket”. Please bare in mind that this still left us £937 out of pocket in wasted hotel rooms. By this point, we had organised a replacement line up and were adamant on standing firm against the agency’s bullying, after they had clearly realised they’d pushed too far and backtracked on their demands. We are simply not prepared to work with this agency/artist (who’s stage name is ‘Underground’!) and would rather lose money and let people know the truth of a situation that is all too common in the modern scene.
After informing them of this, we immediately received threats of a physically intimidating nature (shown in the screenshots attached).[NB – having paid the full booking fee and 50% artist fee on time, as well as very expensive travel costs, we always planned to pay the remaining 50% artist fee until we received the threatening messages demanding such payment. The people behind this party have booked many, many artists over many years and never once reneged on full payment of any artist or agent’s fee.]
On a positive note, we have assembled an amazing replacement line up, where a very special guest (TBA in the next few hours) will play an extended b2b with Sub Club legend Domenic Cappello, supported by the rising star of Kieran Apter. We have also now been granted an extended 4am license for this event.
Tickets for this event are on sale now at only £6 from Skiddle / RA;
Anyone who has already bought a ticket to this event can receive a rebate to match the new ticket price on entry.
Come down, have a great party and support us as we stand firm against the people running an ‘underground’ ‘subculture’ we all love into the ground!
PS – one lucky ticket buyer will win a night in an otherwise unused 4 star Edinburgh spa hotel”
Jeremy Underground Statement
Well, we would add it but it has been removed by him……
“Given all of the statements, shares, comments this morning, it’s come to our attention that we must speak up.
As an agency, it is our number one priority to keep our artists happy, safe and performing to their highest potential. Our contract + initial agreements ask for hotel approval ahead of booking – this is simply because we know our artists wants and needs and it’s important for us to try and meet them.
Upon advancing the show, a hotel was booked without our approval. Once we asked to change it, Abstrakt agreed to meet our needs and all was settled, but in the end, it was not done. When trying to fix the issue, Abstrakt shut us down, immediately canceling the gig, just a few hours before the departure and a few days before the gig.
Canceling the gig at that moment would damage the routing and made the artist pay more out of pocket. At that moment, the artist really wanted the show to go on and offered to pay for the hotel that he wanted out of his pocket, which is not in the agreement. We know that this immediate cancelation was used as fake pretext.
In earlier statements, they mentioned slow ticket sales and potentially loosing money — to us, this was an easy way out of things. In their cancelation email, they admit that they are going to “just cut our losses,” which shows that they had no intentions of paying their remaining balance that was due and that their cancelation was a way to remove themselves from the situation with as little damage as possible. This is the truth.
It was very frustrating to know that the promoters at Abstrkt did not pay the full balance of the show, which is due ahead of time, just hours before the artist’s departure. We typically do not let it even get to this point. We offered to amend these issues with the hotel and move forward, but it seemed they had another agenda in canceling. This is in fact a breach in agreement — they left us with no ‘real’ reason as to cancelation.
With all that being said, the words used on our end were not justified and for that, we apologize. They do not represent us or artists well — our apologies have since been sent to the promoter as well and we are hoping to move on from this”.